That troll hammer...

[deird1]

I've seen a few comments recently on Buffy picking up Olaf's hammer - and how the fact that she could so easily when Spike couldn't lift it shows just how much stronger Buffy is than the average vampire.

Which I'm finding odd, because I always assumed it was because the hammer is a mystical item. So Buffy, as the Slayer, has special picking-up-hammer powers that are denied to Spike.

...am I completely alone in this assumption? Does everyone else in the whole world take it as Buffy being ridiculously strong compared to Spike?



(Yes, she's stronger than him. But not by that much...)

Comments

[speaker_to_customers]

I think you are alone in that assumption. It's a troll hammer. Why would the Slayer have any special powers with regard to a troll hammer?

It's canon that Angel is stronger than Spike, and that Spike's victory in 'Destiny' was against the odds. It's also canon that Buffy is stronger than Angel; he says so to her face, plainly and unambiguously, in 'Sanctuary'.

Buffy is, therefore, significantly stronger than Spike.

Although the strength difference was undoubtedly exaggerated in 'Blood Ties' for the sake of a cheap joke at Spike's expense.

[deird1]

It's canon that Angel is stronger than Spike

Uh... it is? Since when?

[speaker_to_customers]

Pretty much any episode in which they've interacted physically prior to 'Destiny'. It's particularly evident in 'In The Dark'.

It is, of course, totally logical that Angel will be stronger than Spike. He is physically much bigger and has been a vampire for 127 years longer.

[deird1]

Pretty much any episode in which they've interacted physically prior to 'Destiny'. It's particularly evident in 'In The Dark'.

*is puzzled*

I don't see it.

[diamondtook]

I think it's more in a "Angel is a bulkier guy, has more muscles" kind of way. Even vampires must have some sort of degree of differentiation, right? Angel beat Spike up on a number of occasions (FFL, most of Destiny), if that counts.

[shipperx]

Isn't there a 'vampires grow stonger with age' trope or is that just True Blood?

[deird1]

No, I think that must be True Blood...

[diamondtook]

The Master? The Prince of Lies? :P

[deird1]

If I say vampires grow weirder with age, does that cover it?

:)

[rahirah]

There's some evidence that vampires get tougher and harder to kill with age (The Master, Kaikistos needing to be killed extra hard) but I don't think it's ever been stated definitively in canon that they get stronger. I don't think that it's an unreasonable extrapolation that they do, but I'd definitely class it as na extrapolation rather than hard canon.

OTOH I think it's also reasonable to assume that Angel has more brute strength than Spike simply because he's bigger and bulkier.

[ms_scarletibis]

Older vamps seem to be less susceptible to sunlight and fire. The Master--he was so old bones were left behind. That can't not mean something...