deird1: Tara casting a spell, with text "ceci n'est pas une demone" (this is not a demon) (Tara (french demon))
I am rewatching much television, and find myself newly fascinated by a series of four episodes that all came out in fairly quick sucession. They are:
Spirits (from Stargate SG-1)
Pangs (from Buffy)
The Indians in the Lobby (from The West Wing)
Skinwalker (from Smallville)

I find these interesting, because:
- They are all clearly written in an attempt to get Native Americans represented on television more (a fairly good idea).
- They are all clearly trying to be highly respectful of Native American culture (a fairly good thing).
AND YET
- They all fail horribly (with one exception).

So, here's my theory. I think the writers were each handed instructions of "write an episode of your tv show about Native Americans", and did the best job they could. But, because of the complete dearth of Native Americans in the previous few decades of television shows, the writers were all flying blind.

And, if you look at the episodes in question, they're all taking a very logical approach to fitting this episode into their show:
Stargate puts Native Americans in space, and relates Native American mythology to aliens (as they do with EVERY OTHER CULTURE).
Buffy raises a vengeful Native American spirit, to take vengeance for past wrongs (one of the more common Buffy plotlines).
The West Wing raises a political discussion on a subject of concern, and come up with absolutely no solutions (see: EVERY OTHER episode of The West Wing).
Smallville gives Native Americans an important link to Superman's destiny (as they do with EVERYTHING ELSE).

But, comparing and constrasting, I think there's a simple reason why the West Wing episode works, while all the others fail so horribly. All the other shows are taking a stereotype of 18th century Native American culture, dumping it unchanged into their script, and talking about "how connected these people are to their culture!". Which… doesn't work at all.

Whereas The West Wing is talking to Native Americans NOW about issues which affect them NOW. They're treated as real people, rather than mythical, totally-connected-to-their-really-awesome-culture stereotypes.
deird1: Rodney, with text "I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why you are wrong" (Rodney arguing)
So, I seem to like really annoying characters.

There have been many times in the past where I have discovered that the majority opinion on a character is that they're really rather annoying, and I have thought "Huh? But they're awesome!"

Instances I can think of:
- Andrew and Kennedy, from BtVS
- Josh Lyman, from The West Wing
- The Ninth Doctor, from Doctor Who
- Jennifer Haley, from Stargate SG-1 (and for that matter, Rodney McKay, in his pre-Atlantis incarnation)

While I could probably attempt a meta analysing each character, and explaining why they're really not annoying at all, and I'm totally sensible for liking them, I suspect the real reason is far simpler and more personal.

A couple of years ago, I was described by someone as "the most attractive person I've ever seen be THAT awkward". Which… yeah. Fair. I am, in fact, impossibly awkward.

I suspect the main reason I like characters that are, let's face it, pretty annoying and socially awkward, is that I am pretty annoying and socially awkward, and it's really rather nice seeing annoyingly awkward people stepping into the world and being awesome, even though they're still impossibly awkward.



But seriously, Kennedy's awesome.
deird1: Buffy and Giles looking at each other (Buffy Giles)
I am currently rewatching West Wing, in the traditional way I do season 6: watch all episodes that include Josh, and skip all the rest.

You may recall that seasons 6 and 7 are both pretty much split between episodes set in the current White House and episodes about Matt Santos running for President. But there's a big difference between the way I watch season 6 and the way I watch season 7. (I skip in season 6; I watch all of season 7.) This is not because of a difference in quality, but a difference in cast.

In season 6 we have this:

Bartlet as President
starring Jed Bartlet
Leo McGarry
Toby Ziegler
CJ Cregg

Santos for President
starring Josh Lyman
Will Bailey
Donna Moss


And in season 7:

Bartlett as President
starring Jed Bartlett
Will Bailey
CJ Cregg

Santos for President
starring Josh Lyman
Donna Moss
Leo McGarry
Toby Ziegler


You see the difference. I find Leo and Toby very entertaining – when they're snarking at Josh. By themselves, being angsty, I find them deathly boring. So I skip all the episodes about them in the White House sans Josh. But as soon as Will is back in the White House and Toby is stuck in an apartment being snidely sarcastic to Josh, I am once again very interested in watching.
deird1: Gunn in a suit, holding a shotgun, with text "Charles Gunn: attorney at law" (Gunn with gun)
Recently been refreshing my knowledge of Watergate AND rewatching the West Wing.

Just hit the episode where White House Counsel Oliver Babbage finds out about Barlet having MS. And he goes "Right. Well, tell your staff, tell the public, and appoint a Special Prosecutor who hates you, with an unlimited budget and a gigantic staff. If you ever withhold evidence from him or plead Executive Privilege, I will walk."

I've seen it before. But this time, my immediate thought was "So... you've clearly been to John Dean's course on How Not To End Up Like John Dean, then."
deird1: fantasy!Buffy pouring cereal, with text "making breakfast sexy" (Buffy breakfast)
(This will be of limited interest to those who aren't fans of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and The West Wing.)

So, the husband and I were talking, yet again, about the fact that he likes Sam Seaborn and I don't. And I referred to Sam as "the Riley Finn of West Wing".

He pointed out that Sam's character was supposed to be the interesting one, until the interesting role got taken over by Josh - and that "Josh is probably the Spike". To which my instant reaction was "Of course not! CJ Cregg is the Spike!"

...much discussion ensued.

a summary )

I would be interested to hear how very wrong I am, and why clearly it should be arranged in a different order...
deird1: Darla and Drusilla, with text "old world" (Darla Dru old world)
Am currently sitting out on my deck, watching my son terrorise the mint plant. (Alternating between pulling off leaves and dropping more gravel into the top of the pot.)

I have been rewatching The West Wing of late, and am once again dismayed to realise that I'm a decade too late to be part of the fandom. I want fervent discussion of plotlines! Why oh why am I so behind the times?

But seriously:
- I have OPINIONS on CJ's rise to Chief of Staff, Toby's leak, the Santos campaign, Will Bailey's very existence, the sad lack of Ainsley Hayes, and pretty much the whole of the post-Sorkin seasons.

- I want very much to see some post-series snippets of CJ (new job, new life with Danny, and Charlie tagging along to be her right-hand man), as well as a spin-off show with the new administration.

- Why oh why is there not someone West-Wing-ising the current US campaign with many brilliant layers of satire?



...and I had more thoughts, but my son has just realised he can fit underneath the car, so I have to go.
deird1: Fred squeeing, with love hearts (Fred squee)
Okay. So, serious drama, about serious, dramaticish stuff. In an episode where the Middle East is getting a peace deal. And when a main character is having heart surgery and could horribly die at any time.

It's a serious, dramatic situation. That is being taken seriously by all concerned.




How the HECK did I just spend 45 minutes cracking up laughing at Josh and Toby getting in each other's way, and CJ baiting Josh with baked goods???

show!!!

Jun. 23rd, 2013 06:24 pm
deird1: Anya and Willow gazing after RJ, with text "if you'll excuse me I'm having a fangirl moment" (Anya Willow fangirl)
I am officially in love with The West Wing.


I've been borrowing it from a friend on a season-by-season basis, and have spent a number of weeks stuck between seasons 4 and 5. And every time I mentioned this to anyone, they'd get a bit of a sad look on their face and say "Yeah, that's where it changes. You know, because Sorkin left..."

YES. IT DOES CHANGE. INTO GETTING EVEN MORE AWESOME.

I enjoyed seasons 1 to 4. I love beyond all reason season 5.


Please tell me it doesn't stay this good? Because otherwise I just might have to take all my hard-earned money that's supposed to buy me a house (or at least a couple of bricks therein) and use it to buy a dvd boxset.
deird1: Eugene, trying to "smoulder" Rapunzel into setting him free (Eugene smoulder)
I have finally seen that scene from Two Cathedrals in its proper context.

Hurrah!

It is, in fact, a stellar episode, rather than just a stellar scene.

Hurrah some more!

random bits of reaction )

This is going to be one of those shows I end up fangirling over, isn't it?

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