dl;dr

[deird1]

Suppose I have a garden.

There's a rose bush, and then some azaleas (aren't they pretty!), and then some lavender. It's so very lovely and fragrant. And then there's a few trees, waving gently in the breeze, and after that a whole bed of daffodils! I love daffodils! And there's a nice bench in the shade, right next to the delphiniums, and some daphne, and perhaps a few carnations just to round things out...

...and then there's weeds.

Weeds. A whole corner of them. All extremely thorny, ugly, and stinky. Right in the middle of my lovely garden.


If I walk around my garden, admiring the roses, smelling the lavender, picking the daffodils, sitting on the bench - and I suddenly come across the weeds... then I'm not going to shrug, say "well, it's time I stopped looking at this garden", and walk back inside.

It's my garden. My lovely, beautiful garden. And one corner of it is all weedy.

I'm going to get out my gardening tools and start weeding. Then I'm going to figure out how on earth it got so weedy in the first place, and take steps to stop it happening again.

"I'm not telling anyone not to post anything. I'm simply trying to understand why they would even want to...
...It was a waste of my time to continue discussing something I disliked and unfair to expect others to want to read all the reasons why I thought the show had failed."

Why are we still here discussing this? Because our show, which we love, suddenly has a corner full of weeds. And we want to figure out what happened - or at least, get out our gardening tools.

If we loved it less, we might be less upset about the bits we didn't like. But this is our garden.

Comments

[a2zmom]

Here's what to do regarding your garden -

if you can, pull the weeds by hand. Make sure you get the roots. If that won't work, use round-up. It disipates as soon as it hits the soil, so it's the one chemical I will use if Ihave no other option.

Then put down a two inch layer of mulch so the weeds don't return.

As far as season 8 goes, I happen to love it but I know many don't.

[velvetwhip]

I read that and it reminds me why I do not comment at Whedonesque...or a lot of places, really.


Gabrielle

That other weed analogy

[fangfaceandrea]

So the thing about weed is that it's bad for your health, it makes people act like idiots, and still they get high on that addictive shit. *oh fandom, we never learn*

Seriously though, In the spirit of Sue Sylvester I would salt the earth on the garden so that nothing can grow on it again. (as a side note, I hate how bitter the sole thought of the comics makes me )

[shipperx]

Some folks actually like weeds. Don't know why, but someone must cultivate them because they sell dandelion greens at Whole Foods Of course, I personally don't think they taste very good and wonder why anyone does. But... Whedonesque insists that everyone must like dandelions... even though it's easy to see why most of us use roundup because we think they're unsightly weeds.

[angearia]

I think there's some nuance to add to the garden analogy. Imagine that you'd gone and pulled out the weed one day. Then you continue to go back yanking at the garden looking for that particular weed and in doing so, you start pulling out the flowers, too.

You've already pulled out the weeds, yet you continue weeding.

There are comments on Whedonesque that basically are "Hey guys, still hate this, just reminding you that yes I still hate this."

I like weeding the Season 8 patch, too, but I like it when it's not repetitive and there's more constructive criticism involved. Eventually a person has made their point and it begins to feel like beating a dead horse into the garden, not weeding it.

[rogin]

God yes. Thank you.

[glorious-pancake-morning.blogspot.com]

You're crazy, Weeds is a great show

:P

[rahirah]

A further complication is that this isn't our garden. It's someone else's. And we can go tell the gardener that there's a corner full of weeds, but when the gardener either stares at us and says "What weeds?" or pats us on the head and says, "You're mistaken, little lady, those are flowers," then we're pretty much stuck.

[kirby1024]

When I was at uni, my lecturer once pointed out to me that there's no definition of "weed", other than "Plants we don't want there" (at the time, she was referring to "linguistic weed", those bits of language that people just don't seem to want in their language). So I think your analogy is 100% spot on here!