redemption arcs!
Apr. 11th, 2012 12:21 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
On Mark Watches this morning, someone made the following comment:
- characters who assault people do not deserve sympathy
- characters who rape people do not deserve sympathy
- characters who torture people do not deserve sympathy
- characters who murder people do not deserve sympathy
So, out of all the Buffyverse characters, this person likes... Tara? And maybe Dawn?
Call me crazy, but I'd say that if you can't sympathise with characters who do terrible things to people, maybe BtVS is not the show for you.
I still have pretty much zero sympathy for Faith because I'm too busy sympathizing for the people she's assaulted, raped, tortured, and murdered. I'm actually kind of offended by the writer's attempt to make me feel bad for her because she is an objectively terrible human being.
- characters who assault people do not deserve sympathy
- characters who rape people do not deserve sympathy
- characters who torture people do not deserve sympathy
- characters who murder people do not deserve sympathy
So, out of all the Buffyverse characters, this person likes... Tara? And maybe Dawn?
Call me crazy, but I'd say that if you can't sympathise with characters who do terrible things to people, maybe BtVS is not the show for you.
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Date: 2012-04-11 02:37 am (UTC)Gabrielle
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Date: 2012-04-11 04:11 am (UTC)As someone who loves Angel, I really can't imagine you not being able to accept flawed characters...
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Date: 2012-04-11 04:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-11 03:13 am (UTC)Also, people who have black&white views…probably BtVS is not the best show for you. Unless of course, you delight in lying to yourself and living in delusionland. Then…I'm sure it's perfect.
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Date: 2012-04-11 04:11 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-04-11 09:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-11 11:34 am (UTC)I liked your reply.
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Date: 2012-04-11 11:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-11 03:46 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-04-11 05:53 pm (UTC)Forgiveness: impossible.
Remorse: what?
It's a very tough line to take. And, as many have agreed before me, an odd one for a fan of this show.
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Date: 2012-04-11 07:18 pm (UTC)Morality. It is not science.
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Date: 2012-04-11 07:20 pm (UTC)I find Mark's attitude puzzling. But then again for me it's the fact that actions have consequences, and that redemption is always possible that really makes Buffy (and AtS) work for me. The thing he hates is the whole point.
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Date: 2012-04-11 09:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-11 10:07 pm (UTC)I'd kind of given up on Mark; he's just so OTT. Might have to check out what he's done lately though...
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Date: 2012-04-11 10:11 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-04-11 09:58 pm (UTC)Me, I love morally ambiguous and messed up characters. I've always loved Faith, even when she was working for the Mayor and murdering people on his orders. I love and have sympathy for her, and Spike, and Angel and Darla and Willow and Anya... So, yeah.
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Date: 2012-04-13 10:31 am (UTC)