Spuffy is, somehow, still controversial

[deird1]

Excuse me while I import an argument from Reddit over to Dreamwidth...

I mean, this is worrying. So you just completely ignore all the context? Everything bad he's done? Just so you can have your little "twu wub" nonsense? Like, ship who you want, but acknowledge what is actually there.

And flamey hands of goodness? You mean when he specifically realised and voiced the fact that Buffy doesn't love him romantically at the time?

Oh, my dear anti-Spuffy person. *sighs*

(1) In my very long list of reasons why I ship Buffy/Spike, I didn't once mention "true love". In fact, I barely mentioned love at all.

(2) Whether or not Buffy and Spike have "true love", and whether or not Buffy is in love with Spike during Chosen is fairly irrelevant to whether or not I'm allowed to ship them.

(3) No, I'm not ignoring all the bad stuff Spike has done. It's just not a reason that I ship Buffy/Spike, which is what I was talking about.

(4) If you're planning on shipping Buffy only with people who haven't ever been evil, you're confining yourself to Riley and Xander as potential partners. Do you in fact ship Buffy/Riley or Buffy/Xander?

(5) If you do, as I suspect, actually ship Buffy/Angel, why on earth do you think that Angel's history of bad behaviour is more forgiveable than Spike's?

(6) Is all this mainly about the attempted rape? And if so, why would I consider that a bigger barrier to a relationship than the fact that he's eaten people?

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[lyr]

Wow, everything old is new again.

[elisi]

Oh the NOSTALGIA!

You Might Have Post-Traumatic Joss Syndrome...

*brings out relevant icon*

[conuly]

(6) Is all this mainly about the attempted rape? And if so, why would I consider that a bigger barrier to a relationship than the fact that he's eaten people?

Well, he hasn't eaten Buffy or anybody she loves, so.

[ruuger]

Are you sure that person isn't just a time traveller from 20 years ago? It's actually almost making me nostalgic of the heyday of Buffy fandom.

If you're planning on shipping Buffy only with people who haven't ever been evil, you're confining yourself to Riley and Xander as potential partners.
I would also add here that Xander too had not one but two storylines that involved him attempting to commit magical rape. And let's face it, Angel probably isn't innocent on that front either.

[frogfarm]

For something so controversial, Spuffy still appears to be in the majority by far, at least going by SU Herald postings. Seriously, it's like Elysian Fields is now the most popular Buffy fanfic site.

[lirazel]

REading this hurled me forcibly back through time to the early 2000s....