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The Context
A kid was killed by an alligator at Disney World. The pond he was wading in had a sign saying "no swimming".

The Argument
The parents were at fault because
a) It's Florida, alligators are everywhere, and everyone should know this.
b) There was a "no swimming" sign, which should have clued them in that alligators were likely to be in the area.

The Rebuttal
a) I am Australian. I live in a very dangerous region of the world, where we don't put on gumboots without checking for spiders. We expect to find snakes, dingoes, sharks, and crocodiles in most outdoor settings.
I would not have expected there to be alligators in this pond.
Yes, I'm aware that Florida has alligators, but Queensland has crocodiles, and I still expect hotels to be crocodile-free. Crocodiles can't generally get over fences. Alligators can. I didn't know this.

b) If I see a sign that says "Danger: Crocodiles! No swimming!", I expect there to be crocodiles around, and that I shouldn't go swimming. If I see a sign that simply says "no swimming", sans explanation or exclamation marks, I assume it's roughly equivalent to "keep off the grass" - ie: the maintenance crew are trying to stop you from trashing the area. I certainly wouldn't expect wading to be dangerous.



People who keep making this argument? You kinda suck.

Date: 2016-06-22 04:43 pm (UTC)
cereta: Barbara Gordon, facepalming (babsoy)
From: [personal profile] cereta
Thank you. I spent a weekend with my mother throwing every bit of evidence at me from the gorilla incident (I'm from Cincinnati, so I couldn't watch five minutes of live TV without another story) that "proved" the parents were at fault. I finally had to tell her that I was Done with the topic. Full-on DONE. I am so tired of all these perfect parents (especially the ones without kids) analyzing every possible way to make things worse for people who have suffered a devastating loss. As you say, there is no "but" after that. DONE.

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